Ask HN: Best Startup City - Outside the USA?
recommended by 4 users | 2010 | 158 points by lzw | startup hubs | original thread |

I know the recommendation is that your startup should locate in the Bay Area or another startup hub for the best access to resources and networking.

But for many people, the US is not an option. These days you can't necessarily easily get a visa, especially if you're a young startup.

So, the question is, what location is the most like SF in all the ways that are beneficial for starting a startup but outside the USA?

We're a two person team. Founders have been together for a decade. One is engineer with deep experience, other is marketing and design expert. We're already slightly successful with our first product that has pointed the way to the Big Product for us.

We can relocate just about anywhere in the world, except the USA. Our passports will allow us to visit most countries without a visa and we should have little trouble getting work/residency visas in countries that welcome entrepreneurs.

So, where's the silicon valley besides silicon valley?

We've thought about: Toronto- seems to have a very strong startup scene, but this is just an impression.

Bratislava- Near vienna, but relatively low cost. Seems to be growing in leaps and bounds and has a well educated populace. Environment of low regulation and capitalism, so this could be the startup hub of the next decade. Might not be that now.

Big Cities in Asia- There are a number of candidates here, from Manila to Bangkok. Seems the creation of a middle class has unleashed a wave of creativity and desire to create internet startups amongst the youth in asia. Hong Kong is an obvious possibility.

But these are just impressions. We'd like to find a place where there is the possibility of having relatively low costs, since the access to venture capital will not be the same as it would be if we were in the Bay Area.

But access to talent, and more importantly, a startup culture seems like it would be really valuable.

But where can you find this best outside the US?

4 users recommended this thread. What they said:
SkyMarshal Aug 8, 2010 | on: Ask HN: What is the best city to start a start-up in Europe? | context

/second. Was going to ask about this too. Interesting blurb on it in another Ask HN:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1565375

"Bratislava- Near vienna, but relatively low cost. Seems to be growing in leaps and bounds and has a well educated populace. Environment of low regulation and capitalism, so this could be the startup hub of the next decade. Might not be that now."

MSWizard Aug 15, 2010 | on: Start-Up Chile | context
drtse4 Aug 19, 2010 | on: Ask HN: Change Country to Ease Bootstrapping? | context

Take a look at this thread (pros/cons of various eu countries): http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1565375

kaiwetzel Jun 27, 2011 | on: Appsterdam: A Haven for Indie App Makers? | context

There were some interesting discussions here on hacker news before about alternatives for startups in Europe [1], [2].

I don't quite understand the part about Berlin, though - why not raise a family in Berlin (especially if the alternative is not some rural area but other large cities)? I found the side-stab against Ireland a little weird as well, wouldn't have considered Dublin to be "in the middle of nowhere", or was that about attracting developers to join your startup in Dublin being hard? (Never tried that, could well be the case). The last time I was in Amsterdam 10 years ago I thought it would be a nice place to live, but I feel the same about Ireland and I am living in Berlin right now, so ... )

To put it short: I think all 4 cities are worth taking into account and it depends a lot on your particular situation. Seeing startup funds like this pop up is awesome and I hope more places in Europe will follow :°)

[1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1565375

[2] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2573513 (link-baity title though)